Are the recent temple changes good? What has the response been from the Mormon Feminist community? Are apologies necessary for this issue? Is there further marginalization that has occurred because of these changes? How do women of color feel about these temple changes? What do these changes tell us about possible future paths for the church? Does it pave the way for women’s ordination?

Join Miguel and Lesley as they speak with Bryndis and Norienne about their perspectives on the recent changes to the temple ordinances.

***This episode contains a TW for spiritual abuse, temple triggers, and discussion of what some may feel are sacred aspect of their faith.***


LDS Church Changes Temple Ceremony, SL Tribune

Ordain Women

I’m Not Celebrating by Norienne Christensen

A Mind Turned To The Mothers by Tresa Brown Edmunds

Mormons Modify Temple Rites, L.A. Times



Lesley holds an RN, BSN from the University of Texas. Lesley has authored several published articles across a variety of platforms and is a frequent media contributor. She functions as a Community Health Nurse for vulnerable populations and serves as a survivor advocate for victims of abuse. She aims to raise awareness of the effects of trauma on individuals and how trauma impacts community systems. Lesley has certifications and training in Trauma-Informed Care, Community Advocacy, Faith and Spiritual Development, Familial Mental Health, Culturally Competent Care, Domestic Violence Awareness, and Resiliency Development. Lesley lives in Virginia with her 4 children and her really hyper chihuahua, named Chaos.

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