This first appeared on Rock Waterman’s blog, puremormonism.blogspot.com, back in February 2011. Rock has given us permission to re-post it here. Click here to visit his blog.
GO AHEAD AND SKIP THAT TEMPLE WEDDING
by Rock Waterman
I’m not normally in the habit of telling other people what they should or should not do, but this is the time of year when a lot of young LDS couples get engaged and start nailing down their wedding plans for the spring. So I’m going to go out on a limb here and offer some valuable counsel to the youth of the church. Here it is:
Don’t get married in the temple.
By all means, get yourselves sealed in the temple, especially if you lovebirds plan to stick it out for time and all eternity. But before you get sealed, do what the early latter-day Saints always did: get married first. Don’t confuse getting sealed with getting married. The sealing is a priesthood ordinance, while a wedding is -and was always meant to be- a public celebration of your union.
Somewhere down the line, we Mormons began conflating these two events into one. Exactly how and why that occurred makes an interesting and convoluted tale. For, hard as it may be to accept after decades of conditioning to the contrary, the idea that Mormons should be married openly and in a public place, with all their friends and family present, is a position firmly rooted in doctrine.
Whereas on the other hand, the common credenda that if a couple doesn’t get married in the temple first, they are somehow less worthy or lacking in the faith, is a recent tradition only a few decades old and wholly unsupported by scripture.
To Conjoin a wedding with a sealing makes about as much sense as conflating a birthday party with a baptism. When a child in this church turns eight years old, family and friends usually get together to celebrate the big day. It is, after all, a milestone; for now the child is of baptismal age.
But no one would think to bilk that eight-year-old out of his birthday party, rush him to the baptismal font, dunk him, and exclaim, “Well, kid, there’s your big day!”
There is a relationship between the two events, yes, but they are not one and the same.
At least they didn’t used to be.
The Official Original Mormon Rules For Marriage
In the early years of this church, all weddings took place in the open where friends and family members were welcome, including all the little brothers and sisters and nieces and nephews. No one was excluded. Weddings in Mormonland were pretty much the same as weddings anywhere else in the country, and not much different than weddings anywhere and everywhere throughout recorded history.
It was of such importance to Joseph Smith that weddings not be held in secret that the policy was codified in the Doctrine and Covenants:
“All marriages in this church of Christ of Latter Day Saints,” the scripture stated, “should be solemnized in a public meeting, or feast, prepared for this purpose…”
“…The persons to be married,” are to be “standing together, the man on the right, and the woman on the left…” (Emphasis mine.)
That was the first part of what became known as the church’s Rules for Marriage. They were first presented at a general conference in 1835 and voted on by the whole membership. Joseph Smith, who had been preaching in Michigan and therefore not present at the conference, later approved the Rules for inclusion in the first edition of the Doctrine and Covenants, as part of section 109. Seven years later, the prophet had the Rules reprinted in Nauvoo’s paper of record, The Times and Seasons, so there could be no question of his position on the matter. That was in 1842.
But after Joseph Smith’s death, Brigham Young changed the rules, and it’s still unclear by what authority he did so. Brigham Young admitted to not being a prophet (JD 5:77), and no one in the church during his lifetime referred to him as “the Prophet.” He was the president.
Before the Saints uprooted and headed west, President Young took to presiding over a handful of secret marriages in the Nauvoo temple. Usually “the happy couple” wasn’t even a couple. In most of those cases the bride and groom -almost always some high ranking leader in the church hierarchy- were already married, their “real” wedding having taken place earlier in church like most everyone else’s.
What was usually happening in these temple ceremonies was that President Young was marrying the bride and groom…to the groom’s new girlfriend. It was necessary to conduct such marriages secretly because the practice that would one day become known as The Principle had not yet been made known to the church membership at large. Also, there was a little matter of The Happy Triple running afoul of state and federal bigamy laws if the menage a trois was openly discovered. Best to keep it on the down-low for the time being.
After polygamy was abolished, many Mormons, particularly in Utah, continued the tradition of having temple marriages, although it was by no means rare to get married outside the temple first, particularly by the 1940’s and ’50’s when the church was gaining a great many new converts.
Very few of these converts would have considered excluding their non-member family and friends from sharing in their joy, even if they were worthy to enter the temple, so Mormon church weddings or weddings conducted by a Justice of the Peace were often the norm back then. My mother, a Utah farm girl from Mapleton, married my father, a California based Marine, in a ceremony where his non-member parents were present and his marine buddies attended in their full dress blues.
My parents were both worthy to enter the temple at the time (the Los Angeles temple was only an hour away), but they opted to have all their friends and family present at the wedding. There was no shame in that option at the time. My grandparents also had a church wedding first with family and friends in attendance. Depending upon your age, it’s very likely your own parents or grandparents had a public wedding before heading to the temple to have that marriage sealed.
Back then, not many members thought it odd when an active LDS couple chose not to have their wedding take place in the temple, if it meant family and friends would be excluded from sharing in the moment. They could always go and get sealed in the temple later. Few people thought there was anything wrong with them simply because they chose a church wedding first.
Blame It On Austin Powers
As the 1960’s unfolded, American and European society increasingly promoted sexual promiscuity among the young. The Church responded to this onslaught by teaching the youth the importance of keeping oneself unspotted from the sins of the world. To assist in giving the young people something to aim for, a tangible goal was presented. That goal was for every young man and young woman to so conduct themselves that they would at all times be found to be “temple worthy.”
Mormon boys were taught that if they lived sufficiently chaste and virtuous lives (and served an honorable mission), they would one day be eligible to take a lovely young woman to the temple to there be wed for time and all eternity.
Young LDS girls were reminded to continually guard their virtue, and live so that one day they would be a worthy mate for a fine young man who would take them inside that glorious place to live together for eternity.
Within two or three generations, a sacred sealing ordinance that was meant to bind in heaven what had been bound on earth, had been converted in the minds of most members of the church into the only legitimate wedding ceremony a devout Mormon should ever consider.
This completely laudable goal of raising chaste and conscientious young men and women has, over the years, resulted in at least two unforeseen and unintended consequences.
- Those members of the church who were married in the temple could hardly help passing silent judgment on those who, for whatever reason, were not. Those who chose a church or civil marriage came to be seen as something akin to second-class members, persons who were somehow weak, or lacking in the faith.
- The false idea was inadvertently nurtured in the imagination of many a young Mormon girl from a very early age, that if she kept herself worthy, one day an equally worthy returned missionary (the ultimate in handsome manliness) would sweep her up like prince charming and carry her to the temple which was, in her imagination, a magic fairy castle where she would be dressed as a princess and celebrated by all within on the glorious day of her wedding. And then, as a reward for a lifetime of continence, she would live the rest of her life happily ever after with all her dreams fulfilled.
To any young girl whose fantasies resemble even a portion of that description, forgive me while I disabuse you of your illusions.
If you thought your temple wedding was going to resemble in any way the wedding of your girlhood dreams, you are in for a sore awakening. The temple is not the place for your fantasy wedding. It has been more accurately described as “a wedding factory.”
Some time after your arrival at the temple, you will discover that you are not going to be the special bride that day. You will be waiting in a room with about a dozen or more other girls who have also come to be married. If the line of bridal candidates gets backed up, you’ll be lucky if they give you twenty minutes.
That beautiful wedding dress you spent so much time and money on will be covered by shapeless white robes and an incongruous dull-green apron. The beautiful veil that matches your dress will be taken from you and swapped out for some ugly generic thing they keep in a bin with a hundred others just like it.
When your turn comes, you will be herded into a small room in which those few family members who were able to wrangle a temple recommend will already be waiting. Even if there are only a few guests present, they will be crowded in together, because man, that room is tiny. A temple worker will place you into position.
You will not be walking down any aisle. Your father, assuming he could get in, will not be giving you away. There will be no music, no flowers, no maid of honor, no attendants, and no exchange of rings. Some old man you likely don’t even know will conduct the ceremony, asking you to kneel across the altar from your soon-to-be husband, holding his hand in that awkward grip you learned the day before. Some words will be spoken, you will give your assent, then you will be told you may kiss each other if you wish.
In an instant, it’s over. Your loved ones will tiptoe over, milling around you quietly, extending their congratulations in muted whispers so low you would think there is a sleeping baby somewhere everyone is trying not to wake. They are happy for you, but they are extremely reserved. This is, after all, The House of the Lord, and no place to be expressing joy.
But that doesn’t last long anyway because you will all be ushered out quickly so they can get going on the next lucky couple.
What many wedding parties don’t know about is that very often the temple workers are running a quiet little side tally about the number of weddings it looks like they’ll be chalking up by the end of the day. A good friend of mine who goes by the online name of “Insana D” has aptly declared that when the folks at the Salt Lake City temple brag that they performed 168 sealings in one day, it should put the whole thing in perspective:
“Run em’ through…we’re moving, we’re walking, keep going…yeah, yeah, say your vows, blah blah blah, time and eternity, and …you’re done…”
“I’ve had more intimate experiences,” she says, “at the DMV.”
You have probably heard about, or even seen, a bride sobbing inconsolably through her own wedding reception for reasons no one present was able to fathom. Now you know why. This was not the direction she expected the happiest day of her life to go.
A Plea For Common Sense
Doubtless you’ve heard of the Temple Wedding Petition currently circulating on the web. It’s sponsors are asking the current leadership of the church to reconsider the divisive policies that currently drive the modern LDS approach to marriage.
These policies dictate that a couple who chooses to begin their marriage with a traditional church ceremony in order that they may include their loved ones in the celebration, must thereafter wait a full year before they can go to the temple to be sealed.
This policy doesn’t take into account the temple worthiness of the couple, or how devoted they are to the gospel. What matters is that they defied current Church protocol and made a choice, on their own, to be wed in the manner they felt most most suitable to them. In the eyes of the Magisterium, that is rebellion, and rebellion must be punished.
This practice of forcing a couple to wait a year for their sealing ordinance is not doctrinal; it did not come to the leadership of the church through revelation. And here’s an irony for you: if both the husband and wife are recommend holders, they can go to the temple during the time of their probation and, acting as proxies, be sealed for their dead relatives. They just can’t be sealed to each other.
It’s difficult to come to any other conclusion than that this policy is vindictive, especially because the policy is unfairly applied according to one’s geographic location.
Since governments in many foreign countries will not recognize a marriage performed in secret, the LDS Church makes special provision for those foreign members. The church “allows” those couples to be married civilly out in the open to satisfy local laws and customs, then lets them be sealed in the temple as soon after the wedding as is convenient for them. But if you live in North America and have a civil marriage first, you don’t get that privilege.
This double standard shows that either God’s law is subordinate to civil law, or that the leaders of the Church are acting arbitrarily. It’s your guess.
Why A Petition?
We are living in a time when there are more part-member families in the church than ever before, and even many of us who were raised in the church have close relatives who for one reason or another find themselves ineligible for a temple recommend. It wasn’t always thus. In the old days all it took to gain access to The House of the Lord was a simple recommendation from your bishop, who knew you and was acquainted with your good character.
If your father drank a cup of coffee in the morning, or took a chaw of tobacco, it was no big deal. Petty vices like that would not have kept him from attending your wedding.
No longer. Over time, requirements for admission have gotten more stringent and the list of qualifying questions so numerous, that no matter how virtuous, lovely, or of good report you and your fiance may be, some of your loved ones may not make the cut. If you’re planning a temple marriage, it will probably be a lonelier affair than you expected it would.
Pity the young convert bride whose father is completely baffled by a religion that won’t allow him to give his own daughter away at her wedding. Church headquarters now advises stake presidents to have part-member families all meet together in the stake president’s office a week or two prior so non-members can have it explained to them how the temple is a holy place where only certain worthy members can gain entry.
These meetings rarely help. No matter how hard the stake president tries to couch it all in terms the parents will understand, all that religious bibble-babble really translates to “Tough luck, Pops, you’re gonna miss your daughter’s wedding.”
Why Not Take Your Time?
I join with the fine folks behind the petition in calling for an end to the stigma that often attaches to those who marry outside the temple. Happily, there is a growing number of young Mormon couples bucking the trend and reclaiming their power. They recognize that this is their wedding, and they don’t give a hang what anyone thinks about their worthiness or devotion to the gospel. No man and no institution of men will have control over their personal happiness. This will be the celebration of their love, and they will share it with everyone who loves them.
Although I’d like to see the negative stigma of a civil wedding removed from Mormon culture, I don’t have anything against the happy couple waiting a good year or so before entering the temple to have their union sealed. In fact, I recommend it. But how long they wait should be their decision, and no one else’s -certainly not someone who claims “authority” over them.
I strongly believe the ceremony that seals you and your soul-mate for time and all eternity is a solemn procedure that should not be rushed. That’s why I think placing it up front amid all the distractions of the wedding day detracts from the sacredness of the occasion. The holy nature of the ordinance is lost amid the frenzied hustle and bustle leading up to the typical marriage, reception, and honeymoon plans. The numerous distractions demanding the attention of the participants can often blur or bury what should be a calm and thoughtful commitment.
Both the bride and groom have plenty on their minds on their wedding day. The bride has her mind on the reception to follow, while the groom is usually busy thinking about what’s going to happen after the reception.
There’s a story of a young cowboy from Spanish Fork and his bride-to-be in the temple sealing room, kneeling across the altar from one another. As the officiator is preparing to perform the ceremony, he asks the groom, “Isn’t this the greatest moment of your life?”
“Not yet,” the kid grins, “but we’re gittin’ there.”
I think it’s a good idea for a married couple to take their time and let the marriage marinate a little before being sealed together, because then the sealing ceremony will have a much deeper meaning. Get to know each other; get those first dozen or so major quarrels out of the way and behind you, settle in with each other a bit, get in a lot of loving.
There is a deep, indescribable spiritual unity that develops in a couple after they have had sufficient time to experience the intense physical connection that comes with marriage, a shared intimacy that I feel should already be in place at the time the sealing ordinance is performed. A husband and wife who know what it is to be both spiritually and physically bonded, and who come to the altar with a calm, sober appreciation of their holy union are, in my opinion, more capable of appreciating the sacred ordinance that further binds and seals them together forever.
An experience like that is simply too sacred and special to be wasted on newbies. We don’t baptize our kids just because they turn eight. First we prepare them. Likewise, we should allow our young people to be prepared for the ordinance of an eternal marriage. The best preparation for an eternal marriage… is marriage. You deserve to have some experience in it.
Let The Spirit Guide Your Choice
Joseph Smith was killed two years before the Nauvoo temple was completed, so we can’t know for certain if he would have changed his mind and approved of the clandestine marriages that later took place in that holy edifice.
But we do know the purposes to which he put the Kirtland temple. In that sacred building the prophet introduced washings and annointings, gave lectures, and even held church-style meetings. There is no record indicating that secret marriages ever took place in the Kirtland temple. Such procedures were introduced later, after Joseph Smith was dead.
In the 19th century history of this church, a wedding created a marriage, and a sealing was a special ordinance the purpose of which was to seal that marriage forever.
I think we should take the founder of our faith at his word when he affirms that all marriages in this church are to be solemnized in a public meeting or feast. Inexplicably, when the Doctrine and Covenants was reprinted in Utah in 1876, that section was quietly dropped without any reason given. It no longer fit with the views of the current management, and if left in the scriptures, it would have stood as an awkward reminder that at one time the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints had actually been run by a living prophet.
Personally, it doesn’t matter to me if those verses are not present in my current Triple Combination. Until I’m permitted to see a revelation from the Lord declaring those rules null and void, I’m going to have to assume they still stand.
Sometimes the old ways are the best.
Rock has appeared on a Mormon Stories podcast episode where he discusses this issue. If you would like to listen to it, click here.
much appreciated. bless you…
I’ve got to correct a misconception here:
‘Since governments in many foreign countries will not recognize a marriage performed in secret, the LDS Church makes special provision for those foreign members. The church “allows” those couples to be married civilly out in the open to satisfy local laws and customs, then lets them be sealed in the temple as soon after the wedding as is convenient for them.’
It’s not that many of those countries don’t recognize “a marriage performed in secret,” it’s that they only recognize marriages that were performed by civil authorities. In the US, clergy can perform legally binding marriages; in many countries, even a marriage pronounced by the pope wouldn’t be legally binding. Thus, the mandate isn’t that members get married *outside the temple*, it’s that they get married *at the civil registry* (at least, in all cases I’ve heard of – Latin America, much of Europe, etc.).
I want to send this to all the young engaged couples I know.
I’m intrigued if maybe this is more a Utah/Idaho, or even U.S., issue (when it comes to stigmas) and less of a Mormon thing? Also, I’d like to point out that for generations couples got married civilly prior to going to the temple because with so few temples they often had to drive many days (and therefore needing to spend the night together) to get to the temple. I wonder (because this is how I viewed it when I got married) if many people consider the reception to be the opportunity to celebrate with friends, family and community. Also, the argument that couples need to be more mature to appreciate the covenants they’re making-I see what you’re saying, but that is a similar argument to why people shouldn’t get married young, or have kids young, or even start their careers young (don’t forget to backpack through Europe, first). Besides, I think couples need those blessings in the beginning. They need the strength that comes through making those covenants and they need them from the start.
I must say, though, that I do believe that it is important for couples to realize that they are getting sealed-not married-in the temple and to recognize the difference. In my mind, the sealing binds you and the marriage is the relationship that results.
Well stated Anika. It sounds like this article was well thought out. That said, I disagree with it. One of my major concerns lies in what was stated at the beginning: “I’m going to… Offer some valuable counsel to the youth of the church,” followed by the statement “don’t get married in the temple.” This assertion is being made as though the author is the authority and that this should be followed in all cases. This should have been stated as a personal opinion rather than general counsel for the church. What follows is a historical analysis that attempts to tie past circumstance with present standards. I believe the connections that were made are mostly incongruent with the counsel of the general leadership of the church. I believe the rule of thumb should be for couples to anxiously seek the power and protection offered through a temple sealing. I believe prior civil marriage should be an exception, and not the rule. The example that temple sealings provide will be far more powerful to the youth and other family members who are not able to attend than would a different choice. The sealing is a personal covenant between the couple and God, how it may affect the feelings of others should not dictate the act. With all the sealings I’ve attended, I can’t think of any where the children and family waiting outside the temple felt ill-minded by that choice and did not rejoice with the couple. My counsel would simply be for all members of the church to pray about it, research the words of the prophet, and make a decision as directed by the Spirit.
I think it is wonderful that many people are able to have their perfect wedding day which includes a temple sealing. What a great blessing to either have all those present that you wish or to have made a celebration of sorts before or after the sealing that includes everyone. I also recognize the disappointment for those who have to make a choice between family attendance (and a one year wait for a sealing) or a sealing up front.
While LDS culture does seem to bring with it pressure to do things a certain way out of “tradition” or “expectation,” the good news is that ultimately we DO have the right to choose how and when we will marry and we can choose to do so with confidence in that very personal choice and the conviction to not let others opinions mar that decision.
I don’t care for the author’s description of the temple as a wedding factory. I hope that all people going through the temple feel important, because they are– it doesn’t matter if they are the only couple being married that day or one of several. The ordinance is just as valid and special either way, and I think that the fancy veil and showing off of the dress are certainly secondary (and in the big picture, inconsequential) to the love and commitment of the couple and their eternal vows.
I do wish that LDS culture would do away with assuming “that if a couple doesn’t get married in the temple first, they are somehow less worthy or lacking in the faith.” (quote from the article) Life is not all rainbows and roses and young adult men and women will find themselves in circumstances that don’t quite align with the— be virtuous> meet virtuous returned missionary> marry in the temple> live happily ever after— ideal that is taught as THE ONLY WAY.
Luckily when I found myself in a situation that was not as black and white as the “ideal,” I had the support of parents, trusted friends, and the spirit of peace that came from the Holy Ghost— all helping me to recognize that “marriage is ordained of God” and that my impending civil marriage to a wonderful young man was a happy thing in God’s sight. I do not regret for a minute being married to my loyal and faithful sweetheart in a civil union prior to our sealing that further blessed us a year and a half later.
I was sealed and married in the SLC temple all in one day…and I wouldn’t trade it for a common “till death” marriage. It was beautiful and wonderful and I didn’t feel rushed or pushed.
Trina – I’m glad it worked out for you. Sadly in many cases people can’t report the same story. They have to exclude many loving family members. I know my two younger brothers and younger sister could not attend my wedding just because they were too young. I hope you can understand how some families feel a lot of pain when they are excluded.
I’d like to comment that in Argentina where I served my mission, if a couple wanted a temple sealing, they had to get a civil union first at the local magistrate. Then go to the temple. HOWEVER, if the couple was physically intimate in any way between the two events, they then had to wait a whole year for the sealing.
Wow… because if you are married, sex is off limits.
Well said. thank you.
Great post. A little snarky at times, but I can deal with that. I love the historical perspective. And, frankly, I agree with the author, there is value in a model of “marry first, perform sealing ordinance later. ”
I also agree with Anika: the covenant and blessings that come as a result of the sealing ordinance are wonderful. How nice that many couples start out with those things in place.
I love this conversation. .. The bottom line is that each relationship is unique. Each couple faces unique struggles when entering into marriage. We can really only speak to our own unique experience with this.
The biggest issue that I take with this is the enforcing of typical gender stereotypes that the girl is mostly interested in the reception and the guy is mostly interested in the sex after. I can assure you that if I ever get married, my mind will not be on the frills of the reception. Girls have sex drives too.
This was a great post! When I was married hardly any of my family could be at the sealing because they were either too young, or did not have recommends. It was a little sad to walk in to the great big sealing room (we were given the largest sealing room at the LV temple), and see so few people there.
When my sis was married, things were a little crazy. They would not issue him a recommend because he was recently divorced (his wife left him and his kids, and his bishop said it was his fault). So they had the option to wait a while, or get married civily. They chose to get married civilly, and were sealed the next year.
I also had a friend who was married civilly to her husband, then sealed to him about 10 weeks later. They were told that as long as they were “temple worthy” before their civil union, they would still qualify to go to the temple together. That is the only time I have ever heard of that happening in the US.
Interesting… where did this take place? What hoops did they have to jump through. I have never heard of this!
When my second husband and I married 5 years ago, we were both already sealed to previous spouses. Our bishops encouraged us to marry civilly since the clearance/cancellation process can be unpredictable and time consuming. I’m SO GLAD we did. I have five children from my first marriage and can’t imagine leaving them to wait outside the temple while their lives change drastically. With our civil ceremony, we were able to make them a part of this change. They were our wedding party. The kids and I had taken to calling ourselves “Team Liger” as a form of fun unity, and we all lovingly referred to the wedding as my husband’s “Liger Induction Ceremony.” The kids had all voted him in officially a week before when we’d moved up to our new home. This was a special occasion for us and for them. It was a family event that couldn’t have happened had we had a temple wedding.
In addition to the goals of the petition, I’d love to see the language of the Church Handbook about civil weddings changed. It encourages simple, conservative weddings without pomp or ceremony. I’ve seen civil LDS weddings with all the joy of a child’s funeral. A wedding is a happy occasion. My husband and I ignored that bit of policy and had the wedding we wanted, and I’m very glad we did. Our marriage is something we consider a miracle after the hurt that preceded it in our previous marriages. It made no sense to downplay that, so we didn’t.
I got sealed a year after my marriage, I was in the UK but had been inactive so it’s a little different. I could have got sealed straight away if I wanted to but didn’t want to rush it. I’m so glad I didn’t do it on the same day; my temple sealing was probably one of the worst experiences of my life. The church doesn’t prepare you for it and if that had happened on my actual wedding day I can’t imagine how I would have felt
There is an interesting rumor going around (at least in Utah) that Bishops are telling “2nd marriage couples” (people who were previously married to others) to get married outside the Temple first, to make certain it “works”. According to MY stake president, this is a FALSE rumor (has anyone else heard it?) He said the Church’s stand is still Temple marriage.
I say the following as a Dad who, because of MY stupidity, had to be in the parking lot of the Temple when my oldest daughter got married. I’m glad I wasn’t there, because her husband turned out to be an abusive and cheating pig who she divorced 18 months later. (He, of course, married the woman he was cheating with, in the temple, 2 years later.
You know, what is awesome about this suggestion is that, if older (middle-aged) LDS women buy into it, then we guys can just meet them, take them to the courthouse, get married, have the “worthy sex” we are all so anxious for … and then, if it doesn’t work, 6 months to 2 years later, we can say “oops, that was a mistake!” and get a divorce.
Oh, wait. That already happens (at least it seems to) in Utah/Great Basin weddings.
Sorry. I don’t buy it. Can you imagine how many divorces there would be if this were the case? Guy gets off his mission, is hot and bothered, goes and gets married just so he can FINALLY have sex … then he realizes “Oh, that wasn’t so great”…?
There were a couple things with this article that I liked, but honestly, it seems like the author has some unresolved beef with the church. Whatever it is, dude, you don’t have to share it with everyone by writing a sassy article about church policy.
The idea of “That’s why I think placing it up front amid all the distractions of the wedding day detracts from the sacredness of the occasion.” Is a bit of a fallacy if you ask me, YOU decide whats important to you on your wedding day. If you don’t have a full understanding of whats important and whats less important, that really is a result of your own ideas and testimony. And your negative description of the temple and its ordinances shows that you don’t have a full understanding and testimony of them yourself. Jus sayin.
Interesting. Instead of recognizing (or even debating) the inconsistency of wedding day experiences, you just assume that if someone had a different experience than you had, it must be because they don’t have the faith that you have. Unfortunately, your moral superiority and judgement doesn’t really make a good case for same day weddings/sealings.
All valid points. I had the same thoughts as I read through the article.
its not fair to assume Cam is projecting himself as morally superior. That seems trite. He is addressing a different issue all together. Marriage/sealing issues aside, the article was written with a heavy bias. It would seem the author is devaluing what many members of the church experience as their wedding day in an attempt to further his opinion of why members should get married civilly first. Low blow… A majority of the couples I talk with after their marriages are ecstatic about their experiences and with the entire process. There are couples that have different experiences, but for the most part it is a successful and fulfilling process.
It is important to note that this is an opinion article and not a dissertation of church doctrine.
Also, if anyone is confused on the issue of past church policies and revelations and how they fit in to the mix of things… There is a great article by Ezra Taft Benson I would recommend.
Fourteen Fundamentals in Following the Prophet.
This is a fascinating conversation. I like to have my mind opened to the various perspectives. I’d be afraid of people seeing a civil marriage as a trial run. Those who have an understanding and testimony of eternal marriage shouldn’t get married until they’re sure they want to commit to eternity, and if they’re sure of that, I can’t think why they would want to postpone the commitment for any other reason than to allow family members to witness it. I’m sure it’s not easy for the brethren to figure out how to apply eternal principles in a fallen world, but I know they’ve got help from the Lord doing just that.
This article states some of the major reasons I left the Mormon church. A family that states “family first” then segregates families for the family events is no “family first” church. It’s “church first”.
When I tried to express my views to my spouse, he said that I was short sighted and “anti”. No, I am anti, because of the church forcing couples to choose to put church over family. Many Mormons I know lie to get their temple recommends, so what is the difference anyway. The temple can be a House of liars who want the ticket to the wedding ceremony. It’s a cultural disaster. If I don’t want to go to the temple because of disbelief, why should I have to compromise my personal integrity to be “permitted” to attend my family member’s wedding?
Removing this “requirement” and forcing hurt upon family members, would aid in many of the criticisms of the Mormon church.
The church just lowered the age for missionary service. The church just decided to allow missionaries to email outside of family. The church needs to decide that FAMILY really is first. Sundays for part member families truly display that the church continues to preach “family first”, but only after you spend one of the two days off of the weekend away from your family in that three hour block of time, plus visiting other families. Really? Family first? Nope. The church really preaches “Church first”. Family second.
You lost me on the crappy description of a temple wedding as some unspecial cattle chute of pomp and circumstance. My wedding/sealing in the temple was the most amazing day of my life and not what you described at all. There isn’t any reason, with almost 170 temples all over the world that couples can’t solemnize their marriages in the House of the Lord civilly and eternally at the same time. I felt beautiful, I felt worthy and clean, I felt special, and I was joyful that I married the way the Lord intended.
“The way the Lord intended?” I get that the Lord intends for us to be sealed in the temple, but what is your source for saying that marriage was intended to happen that way?
Are your experience, while perhaps not unique, is not universal. I was one of several brides in a small temple on my wedding. I was rushed, herded, felt very much like I was “in line,” and never even got to see the bridal suite that day because it was too crowded with brides. My experience is not a unique one either.
I did the same thing as you and while my wife and I won’t trade our relationship, we definitely wish we had a civil marriage that meant more to both of us. The ceremony was a best rushed and at worst impersonal, and there was this constant feeling of being hurried, rushed, and like being in line at the DMV. And it finished with a man who we had never met before to perform the ceremony and who we would never meet again. The ceremony was rote, the advice canned, and there was a complete lack personalization for us.
There’s a simple solution. Get married in the temple and then “renew” your marriage vows in a public wedding later that day or the next day.
I don’t think that is allowed is the issue. The only thing you can do is a ring exchange, no vows are to be exchanged.
That’s exactly what I was thinking the entire time. If the big wedding is THAT important to you, just do it after. You choose your priorities; if you put your wordly desires first, then you can wait a while to go to the temple. If you put the Lord first, them you put Him first and there isn’t any more to talk about. Maybe there are sad family members, someday they will understand. My wedding day was about being sealed to my husband forever, not making my grandma and aunts and uncles happy.
Lovely post. Well thought out and argued. But honestly, I see no problem in having a temple ceremony if both bride and groom and the families of the two are all worthy recommend holders. I believe our cultures put way too much emphasis on the romance of the wedding ceremony when the ceremony is really just an overblown tradition to a little piece of paper with signatures on it. (Read Stephanie Coontz’s “Marriage, A History”, it’ll completely change your views on how marriage is “supposed” to be and how it “always was”)
That said, I believe a non-temple ceremony should not hold the stigma it holds, very true. There is nothing wrong with a non-temple union, especially if it would exclude family. Isn’t that what our religion is all about, family?
I grew up believing the temple ceremony was penultimate, despite the fact my own parents took the marriage first, then temple a year later route, and they’ve been married 30 years now. Only recently did I realize how silly this is, and I’m so glad there’s a change of thinking among more rational, pensive Mormons!
I think that you made great points, I wish I had been allowed the opportunity of a civil wedding before the temple ceremony. Not because we felt rushed or hurried or prodded, but rather because I was ready to be married but not ready for the temple experience. I had many family members and friends who could not attend and then to top it off, I was uncomfortable with everything that had just transpired in the temple. It was not what I expected but I had to go through with it, otherwise I would not be able to be married in the way planned and that people expected. How would I be able to deal with the people who would believe I had a civil ceremony for lack of worthiness, as a young latter day saint women it is tied with so much judgement. Everyone told me that it will all make sense later (still doesn’t)….