Join Lesley, Sabra and Miguel as they offer their own points of view on several issues that have impacted us this past week. We explore all the ethics in this episode! Everything from Gillette to NewNameNoah to R. Kelly and even Normandy. Say what? Listen in on our lively discussion and debate.

Why is there a backlash against Gillette’s new marketing campaign? Is it justified? What about the “pink tax”? What does toxic masculinity even mean? Are some traits more feminine or masculine? How does toxic masculinity spill over into the progressive and ex-Mormon spaces? Who is Mike Norton and what on earth is he doing? Is he really considering filming pornography in the temple? Why did he ultimately decide against it? Why was there a backlash to his plan? Was it justified? Should men be using women, women’s bodies, or pornography as a way of desecrating sacred spaces? What does this say about our culture? Who decides if a space is sacred or not? Where is the line between freedom of protest and infringing on other’s ability to have sacred spaces? Should we draw a line when it comes to morality and safety of others? How do ethics play into decisions of personal protest? How do questionable actions of people like NewNameNoah impact those that work to build bridges in the progressive Mormon space? Does Mike’s latest stunt discount and undermine others who have received no trespassing letters? What can we learn from R. Kelly’s situation about how to respond to problematic behavior? How does racism intersect with toxic masculinity?


Gillette #MeToo Inspired Ad

NPR: Backlash Erupts After Gillette Launches A New #MeToo Inspired Campaign

Forbes: Which Retailers Charge The Largest “Pink Tax”?

NewNameNoah/Mike Norton Video Explanation Of Considering Filming Pornography In An LDS Temple

No Trespassing Letters Courtesy of Kirton McConkie

Karena’s Story Of Being Legally Banned From LDS Church, Part I

Karena’s Story of Being Legally Banned From LDS Church, Part II

Thomas Shaffer’s Story of Being Legally Banned From the LDS Church

Lance Earl’s Story of Being Legally Banned From the LDS Church

Washington Post: How The Music Industry Overlooked R. Kelly’s Abuse

Rational Faiths: The Erasure Of Black Women From Sam Young’s Movement


Lesley holds an RN, BSN from the University of Texas. She functions as a survivor advocate for victims of abuse and aims to raise awareness of the effects of trauma. Lesley has certifications and training in Trauma-Informed Care, Community Advocacy, Faith and Spiritual Development, Familial Mental Health, Culturally Competent Care, Domestic Violence Awareness, and Resiliency Development. Lesley lives in Virginia with her 4 children and her really hyper chihuahua, named Chaos.

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